I almost got into a heated argument with the security-in-charge at the UP Admin bldg when they tried to stop us from taking this photo as he said that it is prohibited to take such photo. I answered back with an irritated voice "Graduate ako ng UP twice: School of Econ and College of Law. This is my university. You cannot stop me."
The security personnel sort of panicked when i begun raising my voice and said that i am a lawyer especialy when i asked the reason. His answer "basta bawal" or it is just prohibited.
After posting said picture in my facebook account. a discussion ensued and someone said there was indeed an order restricting/ prohibiting picture taking of oblation, I guess they will use the "trademark" argument as their rationale for the prohibition but that runs counter to the "academic freedom" that we are so proud of as UP graduates. In the first place, i will use the photo for my personal use'
my oble photo taken in early 90s during my collegian days |
I found out in the internet that On 4 August 2006. UP President EMERLINDA R. ROMAN issued Administrative Order No. PERR-06-55: "Trademark over the Name University of the Philippines, the Official UP Logo and the Oblation" which states:
"The UP name and seal is now a registered trademark exclusively belonging to the University of the Philippines.The name “University of the Philippines”, the official logo of theUniversity of the Philippines, the Oblation or any derivative of these marks are registered trademarks of the University of the Philippines.
To protect its goodwill, the UP shall actively prosecute any person or entity engaged in any commercial transaction involving any product containing these marks not covered by any licensing agreement dulyapproved by the University of the Philippines.
No UP unit, academic or non-academic personnel shall be allowed to use or purchase any product bearing our registered trademarks from unauthorized sources. This includes “blue books”, examinationbooklets, t-shirts, wearing apparel, bags, hats, pens, pencils, stickers, et al.
Duly recognized student, academic and administrative organizations may continue to use UP name and logo in accordance with existing guidelines. However, the commercialization of any product bearing these registered marks must be covered by the proper license agreements. Other organizations wishing to use the name and logo of the University of the Philippines shall apply for accreditation with the Vice President for Development.
The Vice President for Legal Affairs by himself or, at his discretion, through any of the legal offices in any constituent university, is authorized to commence and prosecute the proper administrative, civil and criminal actions necessary to protect the goodwill of the University of the Philippines. Application for licenses shall be addressed to the Vice President for Development. The Office of the President shall approve all licensing agreements."
To protect its goodwill, the UP shall actively prosecute any person or entity engaged in any commercial transaction involving any product containing these marks not covered by any licensing agreement dulyapproved by the University of the Philippines.
No UP unit, academic or non-academic personnel shall be allowed to use or purchase any product bearing our registered trademarks from unauthorized sources. This includes “blue books”, examinationbooklets, t-shirts, wearing apparel, bags, hats, pens, pencils, stickers, et al.
Duly recognized student, academic and administrative organizations may continue to use UP name and logo in accordance with existing guidelines. However, the commercialization of any product bearing these registered marks must be covered by the proper license agreements. Other organizations wishing to use the name and logo of the University of the Philippines shall apply for accreditation with the Vice President for Development.
The Vice President for Legal Affairs by himself or, at his discretion, through any of the legal offices in any constituent university, is authorized to commence and prosecute the proper administrative, civil and criminal actions necessary to protect the goodwill of the University of the Philippines. Application for licenses shall be addressed to the Vice President for Development. The Office of the President shall approve all licensing agreements."
When i researched further on this aspect, i looked into the website of the Intellectual Property Office (IPO) and found out that two registration certificates for the "oblation" trademark were issued to UP. The first was issued on April 28, 2006 covering serviced under class 41 (EDUCATIONAL SERVICES) but was later cancelled by the IPO. Then UP refiled .it in July 1, 2009 now covering more classes, to wit, 41 ( EDUCATIONAL SERVICES) and 16 (BOOKS, BLUEBOOKS, PAMPHLET, JOURNALS, STICKERS).The registration certificate was issued on July 16, 2010.
In the first cancelled registration, the oblation was described as " A NUDE YOUNG MAN, HEAD GAZING UPWARD AND ARMS OUTSTRETCHED IN QUIET OFFERING." On the other hand, the new issued registration, oblation was more specifically described as " A COMPLETELY NUDE FIGURE OF A YOUNG MAN WITH OUTSTRETCHED ARMS AND OPEN HANDS, WITH TILTED HEAD, CLOSED EYES AND PARTED LIPS MURMURING A PRAYER, WITH BREAST FORWARD IN THE ACT OF OFFERING HIMSELF."
Section 22 of the Trademark Law holds a person liable for infringement when, among others, he "uses without the consent of the registrant, any reproduction, counterfeit; copy or colorable imitation of any registered mark or tradename in connection with the sale, offering for sale, or advertising of any goods, business or services or in connection with which such use is likely to cause confusion or mistake or to deceive purchasers or others as to the source or origin of such goods or services, or identity of such business; or reproduce, counterfeit, copy or colorably imitate any such mark or tradename and apply such reproduction, counterfeit, copy or colorable imitation to labels, signs, prints, packages, wrappers, receptacles or advertisements intended to be used upon or in connection with such goods, business or services."
Section 22 of the Trademark Law holds a person liable for infringement when, among others, he "uses without the consent of the registrant, any reproduction, counterfeit; copy or colorable imitation of any registered mark or tradename in connection with the sale, offering for sale, or advertising of any goods, business or services or in connection with which such use is likely to cause confusion or mistake or to deceive purchasers or others as to the source or origin of such goods or services, or identity of such business; or reproduce, counterfeit, copy or colorably imitate any such mark or tradename and apply such reproduction, counterfeit, copy or colorable imitation to labels, signs, prints, packages, wrappers, receptacles or advertisements intended to be used upon or in connection with such goods, business or services."
Thus, i think the security personnel should be "debriefed" that picture taking of oble per se is not prohibited but the " commercial transaction involving any product containing the marks not covered by any licensing agreement duly
approved by the University of the Philippines."
After doing some more research in the web, i also chanced upon this posting on legal issues of photography http://www.photosecrets.com/can-i-take-this-photo.html
"The are no general laws against taking photos. Photography is considered an artistic expression which, if anything, is protected not prohibited.
The laws that do affect photographers are mostly about the subject of the photo. The laws are there to defend the subject’s property and prevent you from “stealing” what is valuable to someone else.
The property in question can be: a person’s image and reputation (privacy); artwork (copyright); business reputation (trademark); land (trespassing). We know that you don’t intend to steal someone’s property, we just want to make sure that you do so inadvertently.
Private Property
You can photograph whatever you can freely see. If the public is allowed to enter, then you can take photographs. This includes shopping malls, the lobbies of office buildings, parks, and shops. If a place is open to the public then permission to enter (and thus photograph) is assumed. However, that permission can be revoked. If you are asked to leave and do not, you are then trespassing, which is a separate issue.
What if someone says not to shoot?
They don’t have a legal right to stop you from taking photographs, and they can’t threaten you or demand your camera. Only law enforcement officers (and officers of the court) can do that, and only with a court order or while making an arrest. Anyone else can be charged with a variety of things such as coercion, harassment, conversion, false imprisonment, kidnapping, assault, violation of constitutional rights, or theft. The only thing a private security person can do is ask you to leave the premises.
“In general, it is unlawful for anyone to instill a fear that they may injure you, damage or take your property, or falsely accuse you of a crime just becuase you are taking photographs.”
—The Photographer’s Right, by Bert P. Krages II
—The Photographer’s Right, by Bert P. Krages II
What if a mall security guard says to stop taking photos?
This comes down to photographing and trespassing being two different things. If a private security guard asks you to stop taking photos, you do not have to comply; you can still take photos. But if they ask you leave, then you have to leave, as your permission to enter has been revoked and you are now trespassing. However, you can take photos while walking out, and you can still publish those pictures.
Perhaps a reaction on this issue, i recently saw a posting dated April 5, 2011 at the UP website which says:
Perhaps a reaction on this issue, i recently saw a posting dated April 5, 2011 at the UP website which says:
"Non-commercial picture-taking at UP Diliman allowed |
Tuesday, April 5, 2011 |
You are free to have your picture or video taken at any landmark of UP Diliman (including the Oblation statue in front of Quezon Hall). The only time you will need a written permit from the Office of the Vice-Chancellor for Community Affairs (OVCCA) is if your photograph or footage is for "commercial use." In this case, you have to write a letter to OVCCA at least two days before your photo or video" |
For the moment I thought it was about that urban legend that taking photos with Oblé would merit you delayed graduation (which I don't believe with numerous photos of mine with Oble and still managed to graduate on time, hehe!) now they are instilling Oblé as prohibited to take photos? Oh dear! I know about intelectual property but Oblé itself is a landmark for both students, alumni and even ordinary Filipino folks.
ReplyDeleteYung pagbabawal ng guard ay walang kinalaman sa trademark ng UP. Nag-umpisa lang ang pagbawal ng pagkuha ng litrato ng Oblation at sa Oblation Plaza noong January of this year dahil may nag-hissy fit na Diliman higher-up (na di pa rin malaman ang dahilan hanggang ngayon). Sa totoo lang, guards ang kawawa dahil sila ang kailangang magpatupad nung order nung official na yon. At wala na ang official na yon dahil bago na ang UP Diliman administration. No word yet kung lifted na ang ban sa pagkuha ng litrato.
ReplyDeleteits just a superstitious belief that students should not take photos with oble because they could get bad luck like get low grades others say you will die if you take photos with it. Its really big thing for some.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cie1TX4wQ80
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ReplyDeleteWere there happenings or even testimonies to prove that the superstition of taking pictures with the oblation delays one's graduating period is true? I'm thankful if you'll reply. God bless
ReplyDeleteDi ko rin po alam kung totoo po pero sa experience ko pwedeng totoo pwede hinde. I took a photo of it when i was there for a seminar. Sobrang sabik ko kumuha ng pictures around the campus kasi for us students na hindi naman nakakapaga aral sa ganung University nag paka ambitious ako. Ngayon nag aaral parin ako hopefully maka graduate na ako sa 2nd course ko. nga pala 1st course ko yung may nag seminar kami i was on my 4th year sa engineering. So now naiisip kong mag share kasi ako mismo naniniwala sa myth na yan. Sana may maka reply rin sa akin as years and sana walang maka ranas ng same story ko. thank you.
DeleteMahaba yung article, pero parang hindi binanggit yung pinakaimportante-- ipinagbabawal ba ng UP (Board of Regents o kaya Diliman Chancellor o sinumang nasa posisyon) ang pagkuha ng larawan ng Oblation?
ReplyDeletePara lang yan kapag bumibisita ka sa isang bahay. Anumang oras na nasa loob ka ng bahay ng may-ari, puwede ka niyang pagbawalang kumuha ng larawan sa loob ng pamamahay niya.